Posted on August 9, 2010 by Joe O.
Something is wrong, here. It’s suddenly become very normal to talk about marriage as a “right” and a “freedom” and that seems to me a rather impoverished way of talking about marriage. And yet, though one side (those opposed to gay marriage) often disagrees on marriage being a “right”, neither side can seem to get past this issue.
The “right” to be self-fulfilled
Let me try to articulate what I’m talking about: by talking about marriage as a freedom and a right, people are essentially drawing on a narrative like the very one I grew up with: when I marry, I want someone to whom I am physically and sexually attracted; I want someone who treats me well (in part because of their attraction to me) and who helps me reach my full potential as a person (can take me to the temple, etc); I want someone who cares for me like I care for them, who I can keep secrets with and who will share my life with me. I want… I want… I want…
Filed under: Politics, Relationships | Tagged: Celestial Kingdom, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, eternal marriage, gay marriage, gay marriage debate, Gender, marriage, marriage fulfillment, Mormons, Proposition 8, right to marriage, same-sex marriage, self-fulfillment, sexuality | 8 Comments »
Posted on February 25, 2010 by Joe O.
This is the final post in a five-part series on marriage, in case that wasn’t obvious in the title.
Thus far I have tried to make a case for difference in marriage, arguing that without confronting the fundamental differences symbolized by the sexual unity of male and female, we are less able to understand fully what it means to be charitable. In this final post, I will argue that defending marriage – and by association, charity – requires we defend difference.
Thus far, Latter-day Saints have put a lot of money and rhetoric into defending marriage, in particular against gay marriage. Perhaps the most notable example of this was the church’s recent campaign for Prop 8 in California. Though Prop 8 passed, we have seen since its passage that this “victory” for marriage cost more than just a lot of money. For the Latter-day Saint church in particular, the victory bordered on a public relations nightmare, with a lot of hate generated against the organization and its membership. Even worse, perhaps, was the division it caused within the membership.
Filed under: Culture, Mormon Culture, Relationships, Uncategorized | Tagged: And They Were Not Ashamed, charity, Family, gay marriage, Gender, LDS Church, marriage, Mormon Culture, Proposition 8, same-sex marriage, sexuality, women | 73 Comments »
Posted on February 16, 2010 by Joe O.
This post is the fourth in a five-part series of posts about – you guessed it – marriage.
To sum up my argument so far, I began this series of posts discussing differences and why we ought to value them. I then discussed that teaching children to value difference in others begins in the home, where two parents of different descent love each other for their differences (not to say, also, their similarities). Previous to this post, I argued that married couples engage in what I called a ritual of difference, wherein they realize a full expression of the infinity of their relationship – made up in part of their differences – and are better situated to have charity for one another, as well as for others. I would like to turn now to the sin of Sodom and draw all three posts together. (more…)
Filed under: Mormon Culture, Philosophy, Relationships | Tagged: charity, Family, gay marriage, hospitality, marriage, same-sex marriage, sexuality, Sodom | 10 Comments »
Posted on June 27, 2009 by Dennis
There is currently a petition to the First Presidency to apologize on behalf of the Church for “official statements, rhetoric, policy and practice” that “have been injurious to gays and lesbians and their families and friends.”
First, I should say that in many ways I respect this petition. There clearly is a self-conscious attempt to address reconciliation without demanding the Church change its moral position on homosexuality or its political position on gay marriage. There has been a genuine effort, I think, to actually try to make inroads with the Church. I especially like the line, “We believe that people of good will may have differing views about homosexuality, while maintaining amicable relationships.” Yes–let’s hope this is true.
Filed under: Politics, Relationships | Tagged: accusation, apology, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, First Presidency, gay marriage, gays, homosexuality, LDS, LDS Church, LDSApology.org, lesbians, Mormons, petition, Prop 8, reconciliation, Reconciliation Petition Request to the First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, same-sex marriage | 46 Comments »
Posted on May 26, 2009 by Dennis
Today, the California Supreme Court upheld Prop 8 while leaving previous same-sex marriages intact.
My question is: What difference will the Court decision have on criticism of Mormons?
Filed under: Politics | Tagged: bigotry, California, California Proposition 8, California Supreme Court, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, gay marriage, gays and lesbians, Latter-day Saints, LDS, Mormon Church, Mormons, Politics, Prop 8, Proposition 8, religious tolerance, same-sex marriage | 24 Comments »
Posted on November 13, 2008 by Dennis
Since the passage of Proposition 8 in California, there have been several protests aimed at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. These protests are of course understandable. California Latter-day Saints did, after all, play a formidable role in donations and phone calling in support of the measure. This participation was formally encouraged by the general leaders of the Church in Salt Lake City. Considering how big of a deal this is for so many same-sex couples and others in support of same-sex marriage, these protests are inevitable and I welcome this exercise of free speech.
What I disagree with, however, is the “stop the hate (H8)” rhetoric. As if everyone in favor of Prop 8 is hateful and bigoted. Especially Mormons. This message is coming off to be awfully disingenuous and overly dramatic, and also sidesteps the major issues that need to be debated. Just because someone is not in favor of gay marriage does not mean they are hateful. Nor does it mean they are bigoted. They simply disagree with you, in terms of what should count for marriage.
Filed under: Politics, Relationships | Tagged: African-Americans, bigotry, blacks, California Proposition 8, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, civil rights, discrimination, equal rights, equality for all, Family, gay marriage, gays, Hispanics, Latter-day Saints, lesbians, marriage, Mormon Church, Mormons, No on 8, Obama, Polygamy, Prop 8, Prop 8 protests, Proposition 8, same-sex marriage, Stop the H8, Yes on 8 | 131 Comments »
Posted on November 5, 2008 by Dennis
Like most things in life, this election is bittersweet.
I’m happy Obama won.
I’m sad that so many of my friends and family members are, well, not so happy.
I’m happy that so many people across this country have brighter hopes for America and for the future.
I’m sad for those who think that the end is near.
Filed under: Politics | Tagged: civil rights, Dell "Superdell" Schanze, Democratic Party, filibuster-proof, gay marriage, Jason Chaffetz, Latter-day Saints, LDS, LDS Church, McCain, Mormons, Obama, Politics, Proposition 8, Republican Party, Sarah Palin, SNL, Ted Stevens, Tina Fey, Utah County Democrats, Utah politics, Yes on Prop 8 | 35 Comments »
Posted on October 13, 2008 by Dennis
This is the twentieth of a weekly series of public forums on TMB. Watch for a new round every Monday.
Only three more weeks!
This week’s topic is race and gender issues. I realize this is kind of a vague topic, so I’ll give some possible issues to talk about:
Filed under: Obama vs. McCain | Tagged: affirmative action, African American fathers, bisexual persons, educational equality, equal pay for equal work, gay marriage, gays, intersexed persons, LDS, lesbians, LGBT, McCain, Mormons, Obama, parent-friendly employment, primary caretaker benefits, racial profiling, Racism, sexism, transgendered persons | 9 Comments »
Posted on September 16, 2008 by Dennis
We’ve heard a lot this campaign season about playing the gender card or race card. But there’s another kind of card-playing that is unique to highly conservative areas, such as Utah County, Utah: playing the “Democrat card.” This is the story of a Utah County Republican who is playing the Democrat card in order to distract voters from the real issues surrounding his campaign for reelection.
Republican Stephen D. Clark, a four-term representative for Utah House District 63 (East Provo), has never had a challenger printed next to his name on a November ballot.
Until now. (more…)
Filed under: Politics | Tagged: abortion, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Democratic Party, Democrats, Don Jarvis, Donald K. Jarvis, education, ethics reform, gay marriage, Gordon B. Hinckley, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, Jim Matheson, John Edwards, John Kerry, marriage, McCain, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Politics, pro-choice, pro-life, public education, Republican Party, Republicans, Stephen D. Clark, Steve Clark, traditional families, Utah, Utah Constitutional Amendment 3, Utah County, Utah House District 63, Utah politics, Utah Valley University, Utah Values, Utah vouchers | 20 Comments »
Posted on August 4, 2008 by Dennis
This is the tenth of a weekly series of public forums on TMB. Watch for a new round every Monday. The schedule and comment policy are available here.
Certainly an important area for most Latter-day Saints is a presidential candidate’s values on faith and family, including issues from their personal life.
There is LOTS to talk about here. Some suggested topics: (more…)
Filed under: Obama vs. McCain | Tagged: Call to Renewal, civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research, Faith, Faith and politics, Family, family values, fathers, federal marriage amendment, First Family, gay marriage, gay rights, Latter-day Saints, LDS, LGBT, McCain, Mormons, Obama, Obama's religion, Politics, sanctity of life, single mothers, stem-cell, working families | 32 Comments »
Posted on June 20, 2008 by Joe O.
In light of the recent ruling by the California Supreme Court on gay marriage, I’ve been thinking a lot about politics and religion and where the two – for me, anyway – should meet. I’ve struggled for a long time wondering whether legislating against gay marriage was the most “Christian” thing to do, or if something else ought to be done first (such as, I don’t know, dialogue?). By now, it seems inevitable that gay marriage will be legal somewhere in the U.S., even if it never is in the great state of Utah. We have effectively lost marriage. (more…)
Filed under: Politics, Relationships | Tagged: California Supreme Court, eternal marriage, Family, gay marriage, happiness, LDS, marriage, Mormons, Politics, pursuit of happiness, sanctity of marriage, sexuality, Utah | 20 Comments »